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No. You can drive yourself insane trying to avoid pin striping and damage to the paint. PPF can reduce pin striping for example, but is not thick enough to deal with what the rear tires fling out . I regular gear large bell noises as a rock hits the steps. Areas like the front of the rear fenders gets so damaged that even rhino lining gets worn away there. So my mind set is, this is an off-road truck. Pin stripes and paint damage don’t matter to me so I don’t bother me. It’s just another story to tell about a good trail ride or a fun day on the trails

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad appreciate the reply! Love the content

I think you can pick whatever base truck you want. As long as it’s a 1500. Can you get the Duramax? In the 1500?

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah you can get the LZ0 3.0L Duramax in 1500 GM trucks. I have the older LM2 on my 21 AT4, and it's an amazing engine offroad with an amazing range per tank and a ton of torque. Don't plan on going back to a V8 gasser as long as this is an option.

Really? Going to have to try it out. Diesel engines aren’t known for their pep. How’s the power band? Do you really need to get on it to get it going? Or is it peppy like the 6.2?

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad you should really check one out. It doesn't rev as high as the 6.2 so it feels different. It can do the same at lower RPM and the 10 speed does magic with that engine. The turbo diesel has a lil bit more get up and go than the 6.2 at lower RPM but the 6.2 feels more responsive at higher RPM. Now with tuning and even larger turbo, there is no question that the little Duramax blows the 6.2L out of the water. I do some of the high speed dirt roads here and my truck cruises so effortlessly compared to a gas engine at the same speed where it feels like it's screaming all the time. It is a very different driving experience.

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Yes. The location of the mounting holes on the frame is different since the gen1 kit is wider. But that’s it. Everything else is done the same way

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for responding, your icon leaf spring video helped me a lot as well, thanks again!

It’s been a few years since I posted this video. I’m sure you can Shazam it.

Stock gas tank unfortunately.

What?

Shoot me a DM and I’ll tell you all about it. But Ford still keeping an eye on the channel so I’m not going to mess with that

You can drive much faster in 4x4 on these trucks with no issues. Only thing to worry about with the 4x4 system is if you have mid travel. You can destroy CVs in 4x4 with the SVC kit and not recommended for high speed or low range. But if your stock, there are no limits

Agreed

Did you break the CV or just tear the boot?

Broke the whole thing I heard some noise coming from it when in 4wd but was running in 2wd most the day broke it pulling out a friend from the camp ground last day of the trip

That sucks man. Whats the plan? Upgrade to RCvs or another extended set?

You can order them with Amber DRLs but you can’t change once you got it. They have to be ordered with the DRL color you want.

They way they explained it was the steering rack is not optimized for offroad use like the raptor one is. Being eletronic, they tried to adjust its programming to better deal with offroad feedback and they bricked the whole system. They said so on the video. We will talk about the steering in the next video. Because IMO it still needs some work and the slow ok footage shows it

We are on the same page there. There is a ton of potential here and it’s a new level of customization than can be done on our driveways. So excited for what this can turn into.

Yeah. This thing takes it a step further with the position sensor on the shocks. Imagine with SDI could do with this system. Because the Fox guys figured out forward stability. But their side stability still needs some work

They held up well but this car is garage kept so it never would show signs of there was an issue. I later changed back to OEM headlights because I personally think they look better and had to get rid of the LEDs

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad ok, thank you!

There is not much you can do to prevent the extra wear but you can do things to prevent the damage that may come with that upper joint fails. So first off, the extra height will always cause CV axle boots to fail prematurely. Only way to increase their life is to reduce the preload which equals getting rid of those springs. For the failure of the top hat, make sure you get limit straps if you plan to offroad. That way you can prevent the shock of bottoming out and if it fails, everything stays in tact. And then for extreme situations, reinforce the top of the shock bucket. We covered all this in the video

Yeah it does suck. Because the only true off-roader from GM is the Colorado ZR2 bison. But the current gen only has a Turbo4. I wish this was more affordable or that they release all of these components as a kit so that we can build these in our driveways. Everything is bolt on so no reason why we could not build this

There is a lot to like here. The main thing that sucks is the price. I think this is a $120-140k build max with everything at low production numbers like they are doing here. And it’s basically on par with a Raptor R, BUT with a peppier engine. That 6.2 is awesome and power on demand was crazy. But the biggest thing I hated, was nothing that Fox did. Build quality of the GM truck is nowhere near as good as Ford. The door rattling on the ride along was crazy and very loud.

Yeah. I think that’s the goal. But they probably won’t release the kits until after the first 500 are sold out

🤣🤣 that’s pretty harsh. But I think the price is what’s makes it garbage. If it was more reasonably priced, OR the parts were offered as kits to install in our driveways, the opinion would be different.

Just means they made a lot of it in house. Specially since Baja kits is part of Fox now

I have. Definitely some good there. But a lot of drawbacks plus a ton of time to build it. It’s not someone can do in their garage. Would love to see one on the trails too. What little footage there is on dirt is not impressive

Yeah. Unfortunately they will just sit in rich guys collections

That’s my thought exactly. Though it would be more than that in parts I think.

Agree. Over the air updates is great and trail mapping features looked cool.

Totally agree. I get where they are going with it. Make it exclusive and make maximum profit for a short run because scaling production is very hard. I just wish GM actually built something like it at a reasonable price.

Totally agree. This team here basically got tired of waiting for GM to make one and they made their own. But GM and Mopar still have a long way to go, to match the raptor.

I honestly think this is going to be more of a collector truck than a real truck that’s going to be going off-road

I think you may be right.

That would be cool.

Rs are going for $140-150k so this is $60k more. But agree that we need GM to actually make an OEM truck to match the Raptor. But I don’t think they will. Their lame attempt was the Silverado ZR2 and that’s it. The Colorado ZR2 business is probably the closest GM will get

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad 140 isn’t too bad…last one I saw for sale was a 2024 brand new for 157k with an MSRP of 112k maybe I need to look harder …

You can get them down to 30k markup is you look and negotiate. Some guys getting as low as $5k over, but they are waiting. Year or more to get it

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I don’t mind waiting but the dealers all give me the runaround saying they don’t have allocations lol 😂 but when I’m serious I need to see if I can get the price down to 130k or less cause I need that V8 if I’m gonna do it…

🤣🤣 that is the benchmark.

🤣🤣 there is a lot that can de done for the price. Even more when you find out the vast truck is an RST.

Brenthal brothers did say they tested quite a few to make sure they had the same flexibility as your typical heim joint in that same situation.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I saw that. It makes me hopeful for innovation of parts across all platforms.

Agreed. Heim joints are great but they wear quick and have a short lifespan. A sealed ball joint with the same flexibility would last much longer

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad exactly. I want that concept for all of our trucks. Less maintenance means more play and more money for upgrades

One of the goals for the project was full warranty support anywhere there is a GM dealer. So even though they keep calling it a bespoke build, you are right. Everything is already figured out. To the guys that can afford that may be a good thing. Not sure. But the deep pockets there with us seemed to be impressed. I was a little perplexed.

Agreed. Price is its major drawback.

Good eye on the shocks. I agree man. The price is crazy high just in the name of exclusivity. For the same money you can have HM build you a fully caged prerunner

Jury is still out. More have used the SDI top hat and pushed it to its limits. The RPG top hat has not been tested as much yet and I’m personally concerned about the joint up top. When SDI first did the top hat it was rigid and it broke. They added the bushing to account for required movement of the shock. The ball join may not allow all the movement needed and I’m worried about it wearing. Those type of ball joints don’t last long under load and movement. Hope that helps

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for taking the time to reply! So in that case, a follow up question is is it worth doing a top hat or should I leave it as is? Is it even worth messing with the stock set up unless I’m going full mid travel? Gen 3 owner

It depends. If your mainly street driving, keep it stock. If you plan to offroad, the nose is a bit low and gets buried on everything on the trails here in so cal. So for us its worth that extra height up front to keep the nose out of the dirt at full tuck.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad That makes sense! I do go off road so had a level on my list of things to do. Excuse my ignorance but would the SdI levelling kit limit the total travel or the suspensions ability to soak up the rough stuff?

No it’s the one options with the least amount of limits. For every option ( spacers, collars, and springs) what ever lift they add, half is lost the preload they add. That’s why Geisers with the most lift cause so much problems. SDI top hat only uses 10mm of preload to gain an overall 1.75 in of list. It’s the least amount of any system. So you will have less issues overall and still keep a softer ride that comes either the stock springs. I normally recommend SDI top hat with SDI Eclick to get the most out of the stock suspension.

It was in the video, but we also did it as part of the icon spring install. The kit comes with a plate that sits between the leaf pack and the axle that adds a stroke plate over the axle.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Helio, you are amazing for responding my question.. You are my first source when I need any answer. I just added the Eiback springs on my 2017 and I'm slowly moving to the back of the truck. Thanks again and thank you for your AF service.. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Glad we could help man. Make sure you check our latest video from a few months ago on spring upgrades is your running Eibachs

Hopefully!! I’ve been saying for a while myself.

🤣🤣 only. But if you have the money. Why go with any other kit.

That’s a lot of weight to carry offroad. You’re going to need springs in the back to compensate for the weight. Geisers would be the better option. But the back end is going to be much stiffer than a stock front end. And when the bed is empty that back end is going to be high.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I guess I should be clear. 500 is the total weight with the tent/bed rack, all the gear total in the bed. And my off road is FSR’s.

So your running FRS shocks all around with stock springs in the rear currently? If so, the recommendation is the same. Not many options for carrying a lot of weight in Raptors. They are not designed for heavy loads. Off-roading and heavy loads contradict each other. So your best option to carry that load is upgraded rear springs and right now it’s just Eibachs and Geisers.

I meant my off roading is FSR’s (forest service roads), so nothing too extreme. Good news is I found a tent rack combo today that’s 200lbs. So I’ll try that combo and see if I need to upgrade the rear.

Ah. Never heard anyone use an acronym for fire roads before. I would be cautious of any low cost options. You’ll find the truck is more capable than most racks. And it’s easy to get carried away. I’ve seen plenty of raptor and TRX guys use bed mounted racks that slipped off or bent the bed in one way or another. Raptor can go fast, even if you did not mean to. And you hit anything at speed and you experience a ton of g forces that most racks can’t handle.

That’s definitely an option too. Did not think of it. Will the truck show a code afterwards though?